Double knockout tourney
RD 1: Sarnia Knights 102 Lethbridge Broders 77  
Halifax Schooners 70 Vancouver IGA Grocers 66  
Winnipeg St. Andrews 126 Moose Jaw All-Stars 60
RD 2: Vancouver IGA Grocers 83 Lethbridge Broders 73 (eliminated)
Sarnia Knights 59 Halifax Schooners 46
RD 3: Halifax Schooners 55 Moose Jaw All-Stars 48 (eliminated)  
Winnipeg St. Andrews 92 Sarnia Knights 75
RD 4: Vancouver IGA Grocers 93 Halifax Schooners 61 (eliminated)
SEMI: Vancouver IGA Grocers 86 Sarnia Knights 70 (eliminated)
Final (Game 1): Vancouver IGA Grocers 70 Winnipeg St. Andrews 57
Final (Game 2) Vancouver IGA Grocers 63 Winnipeg St. Andrews 48  

        In the Ontario quarterfinals, Toronto Andy’s Athletic d’d Kingston Morton Records 95-65; x-x; 76-61 (2g-1).

In the Ontario semis, Hamilton Quigley’s d’d Toronto Andy’s Athletics 82-80; 77-75 (2g-0). …………………………………………………… In game one, Hamilton prevailed 82-80. Toronto Andy’s led 80-77 until the final minute when they picked up four fouls, allowing Quigley’s to get free throws and a field goal in a 5-0 run to pull out the win. Toronto led 42-37 at the half and built up their lead to 10 in the second half. Andy’s hit 14-20 from the line, while Hamilton hit 24-36 from the line. Ed Bordas paced Hamilton with 18. Doug Harrison added 16, Brian Hotrum 15, Plasky 11, Walsh 0, Middlemiss 5, Cliff Goodwin 6, Richters 5, Jay 3 and Osborne 4. Doug West led Toronto with 23. Mike Muir added 14, Bryan 8, Dalton 2, Wolchuk 8, Goldring 10, Rigby 0, Bouchey 5, Ciupa 0, Petmanis 2 and Goldy 5. …………………………………………………… In game two, Ed Bordas topped Hamilton with 24 points. Cliff Goodwin added 15, including a 25-footer to win with seconds to play.

 In the other Ontario semis, the Sarnia Drawbridge Knights d’d Windsor Alumni 83-68; 95-79; 96-91 (3g-0). After the series, Windsor appealed the results to CABA, claiming that Sarnia had used three ineligible players, Grant Gordon, Ron Vernoche and Ted Wassan, who’d violated residency requirements. Vernoche and Wasson were natives of Port Huron, Michigan, who work in Sarnia during the basketball season. The rules stated that a player must live in Ontario from November 1 until the conclusion of the basketball season. The appeal was denied. …………………………………………………… In game one, Grant Gordon scored 20 to pace Sarnia to an 83-68 win. Ron Vernoche added 19, Ted Wasson 14. Bob Turner paced Windsor with 22. …………………………………………………… In game two, Sarnia prevailed 95-79 as Grant Gordon scored 30, Ron Vernoche 19, Ted Wassan 14, Howson 11, Shaver 10 and Brikmanis 9, while Finch, Walker, Birmingham and Hames were scoreless. Bob Turner led the Alumni with 22. Stewart added 16, Tom Henderson 10, Hanson 9, Greg McCullough 6, Bardswich 6, Upham 5 and Robinson 5, while Cowan and MacDonald were scoreless. Ed Petryshyn and Mike Gloster did not play because they were attending funerals because of deaths in their families. …………………………………………………… In game three, Sarnia took the series with a 96-91 win as Ron Vernoche scored 26, Grant Gordon 25, Ted Wassan 16, playing coach Barry Howson 12, John Brikmanis 12 and Shaver 5, while Birmingham, McKellar, Hames and Finch were scoreless. Ed Petryshyn paced Windsor with 20. Bob Turner added 15, Johnny Upham 14, Tom Henderson 11, Dexter Robinson 11, Mike Gloster 10, Hanson 6, Stewart 2 and McDonald 2, while Greg McCullough did not play because of the flu.

In the Ontario final, Sarnia Drawbridge Knights had defeated the Hamilton Quigley’s 114-112; 111-91 (2g-0). …………………………………………………… In game two, Sarnia prevailed 110-91 as Ron Vernoche scored 34 and Barry Howson 22.

In the St. John’s city semis, Memorial defeated St. Patrick’s x-x; x-x. …………………………………………………… In the St. John’s city finals, the Memorial Beothuks defeated Feildians 64-43; x-x (2g-0). …………………………………………………… In game one, Memorial prevailed 64-43 as Ian Hendry scored 18 and Dave Russell 17. …………………………………………………… In game two, Memorial prevailed x-x as Ian Hendry scored 18, Mike Donovan 12 and Dave Russell 5.

In the Newfoundland quarterfinals, Labrador City clipped Foxtrap 42-36. …………………………………………………… In the other quarterfinal, the Memorial Beothuks whipped Bell Island 76-44. …………………………………………………… In the semis, Labrador City dispatched the St. John’s Capitals 65-56. …………………………………………………… In the other semi, the Memorial Beothuks dumped Corner Brook 68-55. …………………………………………………… In the final, Labrador City edged the Memorial Beothuks 62-58 as Dave Swartout scored 16 and Don Winsor 15. Labrador City also included tournament MVP Bill Redden. Bill Connolly led the Beothuks with 24. The Beothuks (coached by Ed Browne, manager Lloyd Noseworthy) also included John Pottle, John Emberley, Don Horwood, Frank Butler, Ian Hendry, Dave Russell, Des Cousens, Mike Donovan, Chris Griffin, Tom Healey, Greg Simms, Ed Murphy, Bob Hillier and Gus Cochrane.

In the B.C. semis, the Vancouver Grocers defeated Ex-Lord Byng 72-49; 73-64; 85-69; 68-63 (4g-0). …………………………………………………… In game one, the Grocers dusted ex-Lord Byng 72-49 as Gene Rizak scored 14, Al Birtles 13, Billy-Joe Price 12, Jim Turiff 12, George Carter 10, Vince Knight 6, Rahn 3 and Swann 2, while Hoff was scoreless and Keith Hartley was unavailable for play because of a business trip. Brent Watson scored 13 to lead the ex-Byngs (coached by Bill Norton). Hunter added 12, Dave Way 4, Todosychuk 4, Osborne 4, McDonald 4 and Betcher 2. …………………………………………………… In game two, the Grocers prevailed 73-64 as Knight scored 22, Price 17, John Kootnekoff 16, Birtles 9, Turriff 4, Rahn 2, Rizak 2 and Hoff 1, while Swann was scoreless. Way led the ex-Byngs with 20. Watson added 17, McDonald 13, Betcher 6, Hunter 5, Carter 2 and Todosychuk 1. …………………………………………………… In game three, the Grocers prevailed 85-69 as Gene Rizak scored 28, Billy Joe Price 17, Knight 16, Birtles 12, Kootnekoff 8, Rahn 2 and Hoff 1, while Turriff, Carter and Swann were scoreless. The Grocers hit 35-69 from the floor. Brent Watson led the ex-Byngs with 18. Ian Hunter added 18, McDonald 9, Butcher 7, Way 6, Candlish 5, Osborne 4 and Todosychuk 2, while Carter was scoreless. …………………………………………………… In game four, the Grocers completed the series sweep with a 68-63 win as Price scored 15, Birtles 13, Knight 12, Rizak 12, Kootnekoff 12, Hoff 2 and Carter 2, while Rahn, Turiff and Swann were scorelss. McDonald led the ex-Byngs with 13. Watson added 13, Way 12, Hunter 9, Osborne 8, Todosychuk 6 and Betcher 2.

In the other BC semi, the Alberni Athletics defeated the Victoria Haida Chiefs 67-45; 79-60; 81-67 (3g-0). …………………………………………………… In game one, Alberni prevailed 67-45 as Doug Brinham scored 16, Neil Dirom 13, Larry Lehtonen 12, Krego 9, McPherson 8, Pitcher 6, Bowen 2 and Johnson 2, while Bishop was scoreless. Darrell Lorimer led the Chiefs with 20. …………………………………………………… In game two, Alberni pounded Victoria 79-60 as Don Krego scored 17, Larry Lehtonen 12, Colin McPherson 12 and Darrell Lorimer 8. John Lauvaas led the Chiefs with 27. Lorimer added 8, Ken Gregory 6, Gallo 6, Jones 5, Spottiswood 4, Patterson 2 and Bunnett 2, while Glenn Westfall did not play. …………………………………………………… In game three, the Athletics took the series with an 81-67 win as Neil Dirom scored 20, Doug Brinham 19, Larry Lehtonen 18, Krego 9, Pitcher 3, McPherson 3, Bowen 3, Sadler 2, Johnson 2 and Devries 2, while Bishop was scoreless. Darrell Lorimer led the Chiefs with 22. John Lauvaas added 18, Patterson 8, Bennett 8, Spottiswood 3, Devlin 2 and Gallo 2, while Gregory was scoreless.

        In the B.C. final, the Vancouver IGA Grocers had defeated the Alberni Athletics 75-68; 77-74; 77-74; 71-59 (4g-0). …………………………………………………… In game one, the Grocers edged Alberni 75-68 after leading 32-29 at the half. John Kootnekoff led the Grocers with 20. Birtles added 18, Rizak 17, Price 13, Knight 8, Martin 6 and Carter 4, while Turriff, Rahn and Swann were scoreless. Larry Lehtonen led the Athletics with 18. Doug Brinham added 12, Neil Dirom 12, Don Krego 11, McPherson 6, Pitcher 4 and Johnson 2, while Saddler, Devries, Bishop and Bowen were scoreless. …………………………………………………… In game two, Vancouver defeated Alberni 77-74 as Gene Rizak scored 20, Vince Knight 19, John Kootnekoff 15, Billy Joe Price 9, Al Birtles 6, Martin 4, Hoff 2 and Carter 2, while Turriff, Rahn and Swann were scoreless. Larry Lehtonen paced the Athletics with 21. Neil Dirom added 18, Krego 11, Johnson 7, Brinham 5, Saddler 5, Bowen 4 and McPherson 3, while Devries, Pitcher and Bishop were scoreless. …………………………………………………… In game three, Vancouver prevailed 77-74 in overtime after leading 38-27 at the half. The score was knotted at 67 after regulation. Rizak paced the Grocers with 20. Knight added 17, Kootnekoff 15, Price 9, Birtles 6, Martin 4, Hoff 2 and Carter 2, while Turiff, Rahn and Swann were scoreless. Lehtonen paced Alberni with 21. Dirom added 18, Krego 11, Johnson 7, Brinham 5, Saddler 5, Bowen 4 and McPherson 3, while Devries, Pitcher and Bishop were scoreless. …………………………………………………… In game four, the Grocers pounded Alberni 71-59 after leading 29-27 at the half. John Kootnekoff and Vince Knight got hot in the second half as they Grocers built a double-digit lead. Alberni rallied within 58-55 with six minutes to play before the Grocers pulled away down the stretch. Vince Knight led the Grocers with 21. John Kootnekoff added 18, Al Birtles 14, Billy-Joe Price 7, Martin 7 and Carter 4, while Turriff, Hoff and Rahn were scoreless. Larry Lehtonen paced the Athletics with 18. Doug Brinham added 12, Saddler 10, Dirom 10, Krego 5, Johnson 2 and Owen 2, while Bishop, McPherson, Devries and Pitcher were scoreless. Grocers coach Mel Brown told the Vancouver Sun that Kootnekoff “really wanted to play good in front of the Alberni people. And he was brilliant. They (games three and four) were his two best games all year. The Athletics were trying so hard to stop John, it helped us to set scoring players to the other players.”

        In the sudden-death Saskatchewan semis and south finals, the Moose Jaw YMCA All-Stars edged Moose Jaw Dog and Suds 95-79 in overtime as John Livinstone scored 30 and Ron Graham 22. The score was knotted at 71 after regulation. Arlem Avey led Dog & Suds with 22.

        In the Saskatchewan finals, the Saskatoon Patrick Grads defeated the Moose Jaw YMCA All-Stars 79-65; 83-74 (2g-0). …………………………………………………… In game one, the Grads dumped Moose Jaw 79-65 as Terry Little scored 22 and Dick Ruschiensky 19. Ray Boughen led the All-Stars with 16. Bob Neville added 12. …………………………………………………… In game two, Saskatoon prevailed 83-74 as Terry Little scored 27, Bob Mirwald 12 and Cam Gjoslund 12. Frank Grylevich led Moose Jaw with 20. Bob Neville added 12. Though the Grads won the series, they declined participation at the national championships because several of their players were unable to take time off work to participate. The Saskatchewan Amateur Basketball Association subsequently designated the Moose Jaw squad as the province’s representative in Winnipeg.

        In the Quebec/Maritime playoffs, the Halifax Schooners defeated the Montreal Campanorama Campers 102-87; x-x (Total: x-x). …………………………………………………… In game one, Halifax prevailed 102-87 as Richie Spears scored 30, Ian MacMillan 22 and Pete Simmonds 20. George Bork led Montreal with 30. Lee Malachi added 18 and Alex Garrow 17. Montreal also included Gary Keating, Steve Holic.

        In the Maritime/Ottawa Valley playoffs, the Ottawa Fellers withdrew against the Halifax Schooners because of funding problems. They had no money to obtain practice facilities and the team members decide “it would be unfair to themselves, to the public, and to the Schooners to continue to play.”

        In the Manitoba finals, the Winnipeg St. Andrews Dunlops defeated the Winnipeg Madison Chimneys 74-75; 85-55; 103-64. …………………………………………………… In game one, Madison Chimneys nipped St. Andrews 75-74 as Bill Irwin scored 19, Ron McLean 17, Pisclevich 11, Gerry Boehm 10, Jim Bannon 8, Myron Kuzych 8 and Brickley 2, while Chapman was scoreless. Fred Ingaldson led the Dunlops with 22. John Cook added 16, Dave Mills 14, Les Kaehler 10, Grant Alfonso 6, Jack Lusk 2, Bill Carpenter 2, Glen Torgerson 2 and Cliff Stark 2, while Bob Kingsmill was scoreless. …………………………………………………… In game two, St. Andrews evened the series by dusting the Chimneys 85-55 as Dave Mills scored 21, Les Kaehler 20, Fred Ingaldson 16, Warren Reynolds 14, John Cook 8, Grant Alfonso 4 and Cliff Stark 2, while Jack Lusk, Bob Kingsmill, Glen Torgerson and Bill Carpenter were scoreless. Gerry Boehm paced the Madison Chimneys with 17. Don McLean added 11, Pisclevich 9, Myron Kuzych 7, Jim Bannon 6, Brickey 3 and Bill Irwin 2, while Chapman was scoreless. …………………………………………………… In game three, St. Andrews took the series with a 103-64 win as Les Kaehler scored 29, John Cook 22, Fred Ingaldson 19, Warren Reynolds 10, Dave Mills 8, Jack Lusk 8, Bob Kingsmill 3, Glen Torgerson 2 and Cliff Stark 2. Ron McLean paced the Madisons (coached by Marty Terry) with 20. Myron Kuzych added 17, Peter Scheerle 10, Gerry Boehm 7, Bill Irwin 4, Brickey 4 and Jim Bannon 2, while Fred Pisclevich and Chapman were scoreless.

        In the opening round of the national tourney, held in Halifax, the Halifax Schooners upset the Vancouver IGA Grocers 70-66 as Richard Spears scored 19, Pete Simmonds 18, Ian MacMillan 14, Vickery 8, Warren Sutton 8, along with 17 rebounds, and Jess Dillard 2, while Curley was scoreless. Kootnekoff paced the Grocers with 19. Knight added 10, Price 10, Birtles 10, Neil Dirom 9 and Rizak 3.

        The Sarnia Knights thrashed the Lethbridge Broders 102-77 despite shooting only .390. Lethbridge shot an even more pathetic .230 but was ahead 51-37 at the half in the fast-paced game. Ron Vernoche paced Sarnia with 22. Post Doug Shaver added 16, along with 8 rebounds, Ted Wasson 14, Ed Bordas 12, John Brikmanis 6, Grant Gordon 5, Doug Hay 3, Hames 2 and Finch 2. The Broders featured 6-11 Bob Ingles, 6-8 Gordon Balog and 6-8 Tim Tollestrup on the front line. Balog scored 12, Tollestrup 11, guard Tom Sindlinger 11, Inglish 10, Hennessy 9, Frank 8, McKenzie 7, Blacker 5, Tait 2 and Dzuren 2.

        In the last opening round game, Winnipeg St. Andrews defeated the Moose Jaw All-Stars 126-60 as John Cook scored 30, Kaehler 20, Fred Ingaldson 19, Reynolds 10, McLean 6, Stark 6, Mills 6, Glen Torgerson 6, Carpenter 4, while Grant Alfonso was scoreless. Ron Graham led Moose Jaw with 12. Andrews added 8, Cam Gjoslund 8, Frank Grylevich 7, Bob Neville 7, Avery 5, Livingston 4, Don Poindexter 4, Ray Boughen 3 and Dennis Kerr 2.

        In the second round, the Sarnia Knights defeated the Halifax Schooners 59-46 by going on a second half run after Nova Scotia had taken a one-point lead at 38-37. Ed Bordas promptly drilled 10 straight points to put the game out of reach for the Knights. Ron Vernoche held Richie Spears scoreless in the second half. Ed Bordas, who’d been picked up from the Hamilton Quigley’s for the tourney, finished the contest with 17 points, and 13 rebounds, including nine in the first half. Playing coach Barry Howson added 14, Gordon Grant 11, Ron Vernoche 7, Brickmanis 4, Shaver 4 and Wasson 2. The Schooners were paced by Peter Simmonds 18 points, including 16 in the first half. Warren Sutton added 11, along with 9 rebounds, MacMillan 10, Vickery 5 and Dillard 2, while Richie Spears, Curley, Bill Mullane and Boswick were scoreless.

        Despite trailing 40-23 at the half, the Vancouver IGA Grocers eliminated the Lethbridge Brodeurs 83-73 as Gene Rizak scored 17, Neil Dirom 15, Jim Knight 15, Al Birtles 11, Martin 11, John Kootnekoff 10 and Price 5, while McDonald, Hang and Terriff were scoreless. Gord Balog paced the Brodeurs (coached by Wes Rice) with 15. Tim Tollestrup added 14, Harry Blacker 9, Mark MacKenzie 8, Tom Sindlinger 6, Arnie Frank 6, Lyndon Hutchison 5, Logan Tait 4, Bob Inglis 4 and John Hennessey 2, while Everett Nowlin and Lawrence Dzuren were scoreless.

        In a third-round contest, Winnipeg St. Andrews thrashed the Sarnia Knights 92-75 as Jack Cook scored 29, playing coach Fred Ingaldson 19, Warren Reynolds 17, Kaehler 12, Mills 11, McLean 2 and Torgerson 2, while Alfonso, Stark and Carpenter were scoreless. Fred Ingaldson held Barry Howson to 14 points. Ron Vernoche led Sarnia with 22. Ted Wasson added 16, Gordon 8, Bordas 5, Brikmanis 4, Hames 4 and Shaver 2, while Hay and Finch were scoreless. Sarnia hit 17-28 from the line, while Winnipeg was 24-47. Winnipeg was ahead 49-33 at the half and out-rebounded Sarnia 31-24. The Knights were sorely rattled by Winnipeg press and fastbreak tempo.

        The Halifax Schooners eliminated the Moose Jaw YMCA All-Stars 55-48 as Richie Spears scored 17, Peter Simmonds 14, Ian MacMillan 11, Sutton 9, Vickery 3 and Kess Dillard 1, while MacLachlan, Boswick, Mullane and Curley wee scoreless. Ron Graham paced Moose Jaw with 11. Bob Neville added 10, Frank Grylevich 10, Ray Boughen 8, Cam Gjosund 5 and Don Poindexter 4, while Arlin Avery, Gary Andrews, Dennis Kerr and John Livingston were scoreless. Moose Jaw (coached by Terry Gordon) also included Walt Yakimchuk and Norm Kuhns.

        In round four, Gene Rizak scored 23 to avenge Vancouver’s opening round loss to the Halifax Schooners by a 93-61 count. Vince Knight added 15, Dzuren 15, along with 11 boards, Billy Joe Price 12, John Kootnekoff 12, Vic Rahn 4 and Carter 3, while Turriff was scoreless. Pete Simmonds led the Schooners with 8. Vancouver led 48-26 at the half. “That was better,” Vancouver coach Mel Brown told the Vancouver Sun. Warren Sutton led the Schooners with 13. Ritchie Spears added 12, Pete Simmonds 10, Bill Mullane 7, Jess Dillard 6, Ian MacMillan 5, Norm Vickery 4, Tor Boswick 2 and Carley 2, while Claude MacLachlan was scoreless. The Schooners (coached by Bob Douglas) also included Dave MacDonald, Bill White, Brian Ross, Fred Walker, Hugh Lawrence, Rod Shoveller.

        In the semi, the Vancouver IGA Grocers thrashed Sarnia 86-70 after taking control of the contest in the second quarter with a blizzard of outside shots. Sarnia was ahead 21-19 when Vancouver exploded with a 13-22 shooting spree that gave them a 51-35 halftime lead. Al Birtles scored 22, John Kootnekoff 21, Neil Dirom 10, Vince Knight 10, Gene Rizak 10, Billy Joe Price 8 and Norris Martin 4, while Vic Rahn and George Carter were scoreless. Sarnia led by Barry Howson’s 20 points. Ron Vernoche added 17, Ed Bordas 12, Grant Gordon 11, Doug Shaver 6 and Dick Hames 4, while John Brikmanis was scoreless. The Knights also included Doug Hay, Ted Wasson and Ward Finch.

        The Vancouver IGA Grocers handed Winnipeg St. Andrews its first defeat by a 70-57 count in the final, setting up the need for a second game of the finals. Winnipeg was up 31-30 at the half but Vancouver took over in the third quarter. Billy Joe Price led the charge with 17. Al Birtles added 13, Neil Dirom 11, John Kootnekoff 11, Gene Rizak 9, Knight 8 and MacDonald 1, while Martin was scoreless. St. Andrews was paced by Fred Ingaldson with 21 and Warren Reynolds 18. John Cook added 8, Kaehler 6 and Mills 4, while Torgerson, McLean, Alfonso and Stark were scoreless.

        In the second game of the finals, the Vancouver IGA Grocers took the title with a 63-48 win over Winnipeg St. Andrews. Vancouver was up 33-27 at the half and dominated the boards throughout the contest, while Al Birtles shut down tournament scoring leader John Cook. Playing with a bad ankle and a strained knee, Billy Joe Price paced the Grocers with 19, Vince Knight 12, Rizak 9, Birtles 6, Kootnekoff 6, Diron 6 and Bill McDonald 5, while Rahn, Carter and Martin were scoreless. Fred Ingaldson led Winnipeg with 15. Les Kaehler added 10, Cook 8, Mills 4, Reynolds 4, Alfonso 4 and Carpenter 3, while Stark, Torgerson and Mclean were scoreless. “All we needed was one man, a big guy, and the championship would have been ours,” St. Andrews playing coach Fred Ingaldson told Canadian Press. “Our shooting was below par. Also, I think we may have beaten them had a few of us shot better.” Grocers coach Mel Brown said “they are the best team we have played this year. We had a little too much for them.” Gene Rizak told the Vancouver Sun “how sweet it is.” As the players were returning to the bench after warm-up a Winnipeg player elbowed Al Birtles in the ribs. Birtles fell to the floor in pain. “That really fired us up,” Brown said. “It was the turning point in the game really.” Birtles was replaced in the starting line-up by Billy Joe Price, who while scoring 19, also blocked several shots, including a pair on Cook.

        The all-tourney team featured: MVP Barry Howson (Sarnia Knights); John Kootnekoff (Vancouver Grocers); Vince Knight (Vancouver Grocers); Fred Ingaldson (Winnipeg St. Andrews); and Peter Simmonds (Halifax Schooners). Honourable mentions included John Cook (Winnipeg); Al Birtles (Vancouver Grocers) and Gene Rizak (Vancouver Grocers).

        The runner-up Winnipeg St. Andrews Dunlops: John Cook; Fred Ingaldson; Les Kaehler; Dave Mills; Warren Reynolds; Grant Alfonso; Bill Carpenter; Glen Torgerson; Don McLean; Jack Lusk; Bob Kingsmill; Cliff Stark; coach Len Gault; manager George Fontaine

        The champion Vancouver IGA Grocers: Al Birtles; George Carter; Neil Dirom; John Kootnekoff; Bill McDonald; Norris Martin; Billy Joe Price; Vic Rahn; Gene Rizak; Jim Turriff; Vince Knight; Mel Hoff; Swann; Neil Williscroft (injured in the last game of the regular season); coach Mel Brown; trainer Don Leakie; manager Ted Milton; sponsors Tong Louie and Bill Louie